In a collision of pop culture royalty that has sent shockwaves through the music world, Taylor Swift recently sat down for an exclusive and deeply personal interview with Heart radio. But this wasn’t just any press stop. The global superstar found herself sitting across from none other than Emma Bunton—Baby Spice herself—leading to a wholesome “fangirl” moment that proved even the world’s biggest pop star still has her own idols.

From the moment the interview began, the energy was electric. Swift, currently riding the high of her brand-new album release, The Life of a Showgirl, wasted no time expressing her adoration for Bunton.

“Honestly, like, you just mean the world to me,” Swift confessed, visibly flushing. “You were the first person I like, freaked out over. I’m really going red now!”

The “Anti-Hero” singer revealed a charming childhood anecdote, sharing that she used to own the Baby Spice doll and would actively “fight” with her friends over who got to roleplay as the iconic blonde Spice Girl. It was a grounding moment that set the tone for a conversation that felt less like a media interrogation and more like a catch-up between two girlfriends—albeit two of the most famous women in music history.

The Ring: A Masterpiece of Attention

While the nostalgia was sweet, the conversation quickly turned to the topic on everyone’s lips: Taylor Swift’s engagement to NFL superstar Travis Kelce. Fans have been clamoring for details about the ring since the news broke, and Swift finally offered a close-up glimpse to Bunton, who was audibly floored.

“I just caught a glimpse of the ring!” Bunton exclaimed, prompting Swift to show it off proudly.

Swift confirmed that Kelce didn’t just pick a ring off a shelf; he was intimately involved in its creation. The ring was designed by Kindred Lubec, a jeweler whose work Swift had admired from afar.

“He designed it,” Swift beamed. “He designed it with this amazing jeweler, Kindred Lubec… she does all of her gold engraving by hand.”

What makes the story truly swoon-worthy is the level of attention Kelce paid to Swift’s subtle hints. Swift revealed that she had shown Kelce a video of Lubec’s work “like a year and a half ago,” thinking it was just a passing comment. But the Kansas City Chiefs tight end filed that information away.

“He was just paying attention to everything, it turns out,” Swift said, sounding genuinely touched. “When I saw the ring, I was like, ‘I know who made that! I know who made that!’… It was like, ‘You really know me.’”

The “Hen Do” Conundrum

With the engagement ring secured, the natural next question was about the wedding planning—specifically, the “Hen Do” (or bachelorette party, for American readers). When Bunton pressed her on whether she had a “girl gang” ready for the festivities, Swift dropped a surprising confession: she hasn’t planned a thing.

“Actually, you would think that I had been the type of person who would have obsessed over the idea of a wedding my whole life,” Swift mused. “But I actually never thought about what I would ever do or what I would want until I met the person.”

She admitted that until she met Kelce, the concept of a wedding was abstract. Now that it’s reality, she realized she hasn’t even thought about the logistics, joking, “This is the first time I have thought about that!”

Bunton, ever the supportive friend, insisted that Swift needs to “get it in the diary,” even if it’s just for one night, to celebrate with her friends who are “scattered across the world.”

“The Fate of Ophelia” and a New Era

The interview coincided with the release of Swift’s twelfth studio album, The Life of a Showgirl. Swift took the opportunity to introduce the lead single, “The Fate of Ophelia.”

The title, a reference to the tragic character from Shakespeare’s Hamlet, might suggest a sad song, but Swift explained it’s actually about escaping tragedy.

“She was driven mad by love… and the hook is like, you know, someone comes into your life and rescues you from the fate of being driven mad by love,” Swift explained.

It’s a poignant narrative arc for Swift, who has famously chronicled her heartbreaks in song. Now, she seems to be writing about the redemption of love found. When asked for her favorite track on the new record, Swift pointed to “Wish List” (stylized as Wi$h Li$t), a dreamy, romantic song she described as the “final piece” of the album.

“It details all these different things that people aspire to have… and then in the chorus, it talks about what mine would be,” she said.

Travis Kelce: “A Best Friend You Think Is Hot”

Throughout the interview, Swift’s demeanor softened noticeably whenever Kelce was mentioned. She described him as “fun,” “vibrant,” and possessing an “infectious personality.”

“He’s never been nervous about anything in his entire life,” she laughed, contrasting his laid-back nature with her own tendency to overthink.

Perhaps the most quotable moment came when she summarized their relationship with a line from one of her new songs: “You just wanted a best friend who you think is hot.”

Swift also addressed a long-held fear that her creativity was tied to her misery. For years, she worried that if she wasn’t “truly miserable,” she wouldn’t be able to write good music. The Life of a Showgirl proved that fear wrong.

“I think that comes through in music,” she said of her newfound happiness. “People who fuel you… they make you walk taller, and they make you present in a more vibrant way.”

A Love Letter to Fans

Before the interview wrapped, Swift took a moment to send a message to her UK fans. She spoke passionately about the connection she feels when she looks out into the crowd at the Eras Tour, noting the cross-generational families enjoying the music together.

“I think one thing I wish they knew is how clearly I can see everyone in the crowd,” she said. “It means the world to me… that’s why I go so full out.”

As Taylor Swift enters this new chapter—marked by a sparkling Kindred Lubec ring, a “Showgirl” album that celebrates happiness, and a “hot best friend” by her side—it’s clear she is enjoying the view. And if Emma Bunton has her way, we can expect some legendary Hen Do photos in the near future.